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Anna
Thu May 08 2008, 11:00AM

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Because let's face it, that crap's expensive and not so effective, at least not out here in the cow-polk country.

Has anyone heard of anything that's more effective, specifically against dogticks? I'm pretty sure they are infesting the 200 year old house I live in and as much as I LOOOOOVE picking little parasites off my ladies, I could live without it.

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Kate
Thu May 08 2008, 11:28AM

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I'll check at my vet for what the list of possibilities...Off the top of my head Advantage...

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jessica
Thu May 08 2008, 12:57PM

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rough.....will keep my ear to the ground if I hear of anything better I will PM you....I've only used Advantage once...the cat formula and the spot I put it on her neck, her hair fell out and it burned her skin...SO if anyone knows any natural idea's I'd love to hear as well!

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CarinoMasti
Thu May 08 2008, 08:11PM

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This is one of our favorites out here in the boondocks. Sorry about the length, but wanted to include information about how it works.

Diatomaceous Earth (pulled the insert off revival animal health)

A truly safe and effective organic pesticide


D/Earth (Diatomaceous Earth) is fossilized remains of microscopic shells created by one celled organisms of algae like plants called Diatoms. D/Earth (Diatomaceous Earth) has many protective uses, from use on household pets to spraying field crops, to stored grain, livestock or pet feed. Freshwater, food grade D/Earth (Diatomaceous Earth) can be used for internal parasites by placing in daily feed ration or external parasites when used as a natural topical dusting powder. Completely harmless to all animals, fish, birds, and the environment, it can be sprinkled on the animal, the bedding or around the kennel. About the only negative to D/Earth (Diatomaceous Earth) is when used outside it must be reapplied after a rain. D/Earth (Diatomaceous Earth) makes an extremely uncomfortable environment for any insect or arthropod that it comes in contract with.


Unlike persistent chemicals pesticides that can be harmful to your pet and the environment, D/Earth (Diatomaceous Earth) is an ORGANIC mechanical pesticide that treats infestation without harmful side effects. D/Earth (Diatomaceous Earth) is truly a safe ingredient; bugs can not become immune to D/Earth (Diatomaceous Earth) because it kills them by PHYSICAL not chemical action. Special processed milling makes D/Earth (Diatomaceous Earth) into a product graded for particle size which is most effective for killing insects. This process makes it easier and less dusty to use. As the insect comes in contact with the powder, static electricity causes an attraction to the body. Once the powder attaches itself to the insect, the sharp edges of the particles cut through the waxy outer layer of the exoskeleton of the insect and absorb the body fluids therefore killing the parasite. It takes a day or two for the process to take place but the end results is most effective, death by dehydration.


There are 2 types of diatomaceous earth, saltwater and freshwater. This is why it is very important that when using on animals or around livestock that you choose the freshwater, food grade D/Earth (Diatomaceous Earth). Freshwater diatomaceous earth is amorphous silica. Saltwater diatomaceous earth, the type used in pool filters, is crystalline silica. Pool filter diatomaceous earth is amorphous silica that has been heat treated forming large lump crystalline silica that makes for better filtering.


NEVER, NEVER USE POOL FILTER DIATOMACEOUS EARTH ON ANIMALS.

It simply won’t be effective and is dangerous because of the many harmful side effects.


D/Earth (Diatomaceous Earth) is both a short and long-term non-toxic, effective, safe, organic pesticide. D/Earth (Diatomaceous Earth) has a remarkable repellency factor. As long as it is present, insects tend to stay away, making a serious infestation almost impossible. Also the more D/Earth (Diatomaceous Earth) is used, the more an environment is created to repel insects. If you use D/Earth (Diatomaceous Earth) on a regular basis your animal both internally and externally will have less and less problems with all types of troublesome parasites.

We use due to the fire ants, and flea population on the farm. Have not had any problems as long as I stay away from the eyes.

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lynnicks
Thu May 08 2008, 09:13PM

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People might think this mad but we used to put the dogs when we lived in Africa through the cattle dip after say 3000 cows had been dipped.
Vets there recommended it and also we used to feed garlic tablets especially for dogs.
Here although there are ticks I dont seem to have any problems with Ticks. We were also told to cover the Tick in vasaline so that when it cant breath it lets go of the dog because leaving the head behind can cause really bad infection. I had one dog with a hole the size of an orange from pulling off a Tick.
We also used to burn the tick with a lighter which made them explode not nice but one dead tick made me feel good


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lynnicks
Thu May 08 2008, 09:17PM

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Forgot to add the dip must be rinsed off the dog afterwards. We used to let the dogs play in the river nearby afterwards for 30 minutes or so.



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Anna
Fri May 09 2008, 08:57AM

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MaryAnn that you for all that info! Where does one go about finding something like that? I imagine I could ask the ASI department here, although I'm pretty sure they spend money on exactly ZERO extras for the meat animals (nature of the beast I imagine)

I'll do some looking online

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Agrippina
Fri May 09 2008, 10:02AM

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Yep Anna- I use it here. Good stuff.

I find it on large gardening type websites. OR People use it to filter their pools.

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CarinoMasti
Fri May 09 2008, 11:51AM

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Can't use the one for pools, it is done with a chemical that is toxic to the babies if they lick themselves. I get mine at the feed store, or at revivalanimal.com. I love this stuff.

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jessica
Fri May 09 2008, 12:01PM

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Thanks for the info I'll check it out for sure!

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