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Lori
Sun Jul 13 2008, 04:16PM

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I have a wonderful Vet here and my family has used him forever for our show horses. He is a great family friend but new to the Neo breed. It was almost 2 years ago when I had a couple pups with cherry eye from the Tuscany X Iwan litter. My vet listened to me and all it took was one call to Dr. Sherilyn Allen, my vet Joe spoke to her for under 10 minutes........he had not a worry.....and two pups with cherry eye had them removed. Was a great lesson for Joe and I would never tack!!!!!!! If they want to tack then only shows to me they have no knowledge of the Neo.
Just my experience.....I am happy so far these last two litters not a cherry eye yet..........if happens....there will be no tacking!!!




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mel
Sun Jul 13 2008, 04:19PM

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hey thanks rocky i am going to email it to Mr.Butternuts

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Sun Jul 13 2008, 04:26PM

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It is very frustrating that Neo's are so rare this part of the country (canada) that every vet i have encounterd has little or NO exp. wityh Neo's i am glad that at least we have one in calgary but its 2 hours away who will listen to reason and has some although limited exp with Neo's , but as it is now he will be inidated with my dogs as well as Rockys ! i dont know what will happen if he retires . i'll have to ship em east to Linda .


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Kate
Sun Jul 13 2008, 10:56PM

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My vet would want to tack too, but would remove if I pushed it (we work together). Thankfully I have not had to make that call...

The procedure he talks about thought does make sense to me...The gland is tacked to the ocular bone to help anchor it. I could see where if most are doing the "older" version of the surgery, the problem would come back or worsen...If they just do a straight tack of course the gland could pop back out, because of the droop there is nothing to hold it in...

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o_dosa_neo
Mon Jul 14 2008, 04:37PM
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a $400 dollar tack surgery...with the vet knowing darn well you'll be back for more tack surgery's down the road...maybe even as soon as the following month...leading to more exspensive surgery's...when a cherry removal runs $60 and success and healing takes less than a week...id question what drives such a vet...especially if you supply him with documentation fron mastiff owners...and he still sticks to his guns...you're never to old to learn. (from anyone)...if he thinks otherwise...leave "QUACKING" like a duck
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Mon Jul 14 2008, 05:27PM

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o_dosa_neo wrote ...

a $400 dollar tack surgery...with the vet knowing darn well you'll be back for more tack surgery's down the road...maybe even as soon as the following month...leading to more exspensive surgery's...when a cherry removal runs $60 and success and healing takes less than a week...id question what drives such a vet...especially if you supply him with documentation fron mastiff owners...and he still sticks to his guns...you're never to old to learn. (from anyone)...if he thinks otherwise...leave "QUACKING" like a duck

i agree whole heartedly with you John , its crazy , i was qauted for Nigel from one vet here in town ..500.00 to remove ONE cherry eye ! thats when i found the guy in the city as he is also one of FEW who will crop ears just by chance Nigel had cherry eye when True was going in for the crop i asked him to remove it he charged me 100.00 . when i actually witnessed what a simple procedure it was i was really shocked that my vet who i had been going to for quite sometime would charge me so much for such a simple procedure. !




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arcticthing
Thu Aug 07 2008, 05:47AM
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Hi!
My mum has a Neo and we have had to deal with this cherry eye as well (I live in Scandinavia). What I find interesting is that most of you(r vets) recommend removing the gland all together where as our vet says that's she won't do it (its the ultimate last resort) simply because the dog will go blind. Also, the brother of our dog's has the same problem and their vet had the exact same answer. We have tacked our dog's cherry twice and it is now okey (not to say it wouldn't pop up some time but so far so good X)!

What we discussed with our vet was that if this other time won't do it, then we will leave the gland visible (since it is only visual problem if it pops up again) and alone (and she will ask more advice on specialists if there is any new progress on operating Neo's eyes;). And maybe later operate it again.

All in all, it's a shame that such a gorgeous breed does have to suffer from this kind of problems but with that much loose skin I guess you can't help it too much. Also, the breed has a small gene pool. However, I believe this problem is also partly hereditary and should be at least aknowledged (or avoided using "good eyed" parents) in breeding (I'm sure most of people do that, though). Hopefully in the future there will be less and less cherry eyes with Neos!
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Thu Aug 07 2008, 07:32AM

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If we concentrated on using only those without cherry eye we would have an even smaller gene pool considering about 70% of mastini have or have had cherry eye.

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arcticthing
Thu Aug 07 2008, 08:26AM
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It's a really shame that the gene pool is so small! But hopefully they would figure out a new method of curing the cherry eye some day . And also, it's not the cherry eye that is the only problem with such a heavy breed as this. Nevertheless, from what I have gathered (from other Neo owners), the health situation of Neapolitans has improved over the past 10 years or so (I'm no expert, though) which is excellent.
What comes to our dog, I hope that both eyes from now on (only the other eye popped) will stay as they are & of course, that he will stay healthy otherwise!
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