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shellydawn

Tue Jun 02 2009, 07:43AM

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Jessica,
I don't know this to be a fact, but I was told that salmon has something in it that is toxic to dogs. Please check into it further before feeding it to Scout.

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Tue Jun 02 2009, 07:48AM

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I have fed salmon to all mine and not had issues but i do remember sometime ago a post on a molosser board that did speak about not feeding a certain fish raw to dogs

but i cant remember which fish it was

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Salmon ( Raw) Poisoning Disease

This is primarily a problem in the Pacific Northwest and California. But if you feed a raw meat diet it can be a problem anywhere.

It is caused from the infection by a rickettsial organism, Neorickettsia helminthoeca. SPD has been known since the early 19th century in North America. It had been observed that dogs that ate raw salmon frequently died however the connection between the fluke and the rickettsia was not established at this time.(1) It is unusual in that the rickettsial organism does not directly infect the dog but is instead carried by a parasite, a trematode (flatworm or fluke) called Nanophyteus salmincola through two intermediate hosts first: freshwater snails and salmonid fish (salmon, trout and steelhead). Nanophyteus salmincola are found to infect freshwater snails particularly Oxytrema plicifer. The infected snail forms part of the salmonid species food web and is ingested. Neither the fluke nor the rickettsial organism act as pathogens in the fish. The dog is exposed only when it ingests the secondary host - an infected fish. After the dog ingests the fish, the encysted fluke larvae burst and embed in the dog’s intestinal tract and the rickettsia are introduced. The cycle continues when ova are excreted in dog feces to infect snails. It is necessary for your dog to eat raw salmon to get salmon poisoning disease.

A sudden onset of symptoms occur 5-7 days after ingestion of fish. Initial symptoms include lethargy and anorexia. Peaking of temperature between 104-107 in the first two days and then slowly returns to normal. Persistent vomiting by the fourth day. There is bloody diarrhea within a few days of vomiting onset. The diarrhea is often bright yellow color. There are enlarged lymph nodes. In the acute stages, gastrointestinal symptoms are quite similar to canine parvovirus. Nasal and ocular symptoms can resemble canine distemper. If left untreated, SPD has a mortality rate of up to 90%. Treatment is supportive to maintain hydration as well as antibiotic therapy to kill the disease producing organism. Dogs that survive are immune. It is preventable by cooking all fish before feeding your dog. If you are outdoors hiking or camping or live near streams and rivers were salmon spawn, keep a close eye on your dog on don't let your pet run free to insure that no fish carcasses are ingested. Please see your vet immediately if you suspect your dog has ingested raw salmon.

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I also feed Salmon raw all the time to my dogs. I have yet to have any side effects or illness arise from feeding...

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I have fed cooked/canned only and never tried any raw fish, mainly cause its too expensive for fish of ay sort here

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shellydawn

Tue Jun 02 2009, 01:42PM

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It doesn't say that all dogs that eat raw salmon will get sick and die, so maybe your dogs just got lucky, Alex. Definitely something to consider IMO.

I prefer to be safe rather than sorry.

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I feed canned (cooked ) salmon and mackeral one time per week. Jan

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dixiepei wrote ...

I feed canned (cooked ) salmon and mackeral one time per week. Jan

I actually prefer the canned mackerel over any fish since it has the juices and the dogs go nuts for it...

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Thanks! I haven't fed her the salmon yet because I wasn't sure...thanks for all the info everyone! I know phil mentioned chicken necks, what else can they eat? For example, I saw beef tongue, pork necks and pork hocks (?) at the grocery store the other day.

Jessica

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