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| Sarena |
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| Has anyone here had to do this surgery on their Neo? I have a pup (15 months) who may need it done and my only concern is whether or not it will change the appearance of his expression much...he has a pretty "typey" head with very heavy folds & wrinkles...I would like to show him at some point & don't want him to have a funny, "wide-eyed" expression. Thanks, CLaudia CCNICOSIA | ||||
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Administrator | I saw an op done on a male in Napoli. Pretty much if you imagine your face. There was a line about the size of your eyebrow and it was injected with local anaesthetic. Then the skin was cut away very easily and the area which was as i said the size of your own eyebrow (well a mans LOL) was stitched up to close the gap hence pulling the skin together and tightening it a little the expression did not alter and although i did not see once healed you could tell that it would have never been noticed once the area healed and the hair grew back. UGM Admin undergroundmastini Check out the links below Neapolitan Mastiff Photos Useful Links Neapolitan Mastiff Videos Neapolitan Mastiff Health Neapolitan Mastiff Chat RoomNeapolitan Mastiff Boa Forum UK | |||
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| Kate |
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 | Claudia...I have seen many surgeries done (the joys of working at the vet) You should not see a "wide-eyed" expression, but you may see a little more eye, but that is the point of the surgery. To open up the eye area, so that there is no longer the irritation. I have very rarely seen it done wrong (then you are stuck with a "wide-eyed" sort of look)...But it can happen...So I would go to someone experienced. [ Edited Fri Apr 04 2008, 04:07PM ] Kate and the zoo \"Shit happens.\" | |||
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| o_dosa_neo |
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| Guest Gold 0  Spent: 0 | XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO [ Edited Fri Apr 11 2008, 03:29AM ] | |||
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| Kate |
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| | Sharpeis are plagued with the need for the surgery...We had one sharpei pup come in who's eyes had never opened because of too much wrinkling...When the surgeon got in there we found that he had one eye missing (the socket was just empty), and the other eye was dead...It was freaky... Kate and the zoo \"Shit happens.\" | |||
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| Jamesjuile |
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 | I believe there are some different ways of doing this. If the eyelid is just turning in but there is not an almighty weight of skin above the eye, it is possible with minute stitches to stitch the eyelid just along the outer line of the eyelid so it no longer turns under. This is the least distressing and there is no big amount of skin removed. It literally looks like where we have our eye lashes, that would be where the row of stiches is until it heals in situ. Tiny sliver of skin removed if at all. The second way is as Phil descibes and is the preferred choice in Italy, generally because the dogs are typey and it is the weight of skin onto the eyelid causing the entropian. As already stated, there tends to be a quarter moon shape cut out, preferably in a fold and the skin stitched up to this to lift the lid and take some of the weight off the eye to prevent the eyelash's rubbing the cornea. In some extreme cases, a whole face lift can be carried out. This happens in our own breed, St Bernards and that type. The eighth of a moon shape is taken out of the top of the head and the face is lifted to take the weight of skin up and out of the eyes. This is by far the most extensive surgery. What needs to be taken into consideration by the vet is that our dogs will continue to develop skin, wrinkle and folds for nearly all (if not all) their lives. And therefore the level of skin removal needs to be correct for future development in the dog because this is not surgery you would want to re-visit. Whilst we do not want the dog to look like it has been caught in the headlights! Vets are very competent at ways one and two. The third way nearly always is done by a specialist. Julie julie Home of Whitelabel mastini It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees. | |||
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| Sarena |
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| Thank you all very much for your input..it is greatly appreciated. I actually work in an animal hospital but my boss only does cherry eye surgery...he has done some entropion surgeries but even he recommends going to a referral center where they only do eye surgeries...I know this will cost me more but if it gets done right the 1st time, I think it will be worth it. NOW for the NEW news...I came home last night to see my beautiful boy has popped a cherry eye in one eye...probably because he rubs them constantly from the irritation of the entropion...so my new question is...do I wait and see if the other eye blows before I schedule the surgery? THANK YOU ALL! CCNICOSIA | ||||
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| Guest Gold 0 Spent: 0 | XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO [ Edited Fri Apr 11 2008, 03:29AM ] | |||
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| Jamesjuile |
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| | Wow John i cant believe how cheap that is! I know some vets do it under a local rather than a general but it costs me about £200 for cherry eye but I do as you have said, if one pops its only a matter of time for the other so I have it removed. DO NOT hold off the surgery for the entropian! if its that irritating that he is rubbing it on his paws, walls or anything then get it done or it will only be a short space of time before it causes an ulcer and then you'll really know about it. Are you using viscous ointment or drops in the meantime? You need to to keep the damage to the cornea minimal. julie Home of Whitelabel mastini It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees. | |||
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| | Wow John i cant believe how cheap that is! I know some vets do it under a local rather than a general but it costs me about £200 for cherry eye but I do as you have said, if one pops its only a matter of time for the other so I have it removed. DO NOT hold off the surgery for the entropian! if its that irritating that he is rubbing it on his paws, walls or anything then get it done or it will only be a short space of time before it causes an ulcer and then you'll really know about it. Are you using viscous ointment or drops in the meantime? You need to to keep the damage to the cornea minimal. julie Home of Whitelabel mastini It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees. | |||
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